Post subject: Balkan States Insignia & Uniforms (Balkan Wars of 1912-1

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:54 pm

HELLENIC ARMY-ELLINIKOS STRATOS





1.Strategoss (General). Rank held only by King Constantine I.
2. Antistrategos (Lt.Gen)
3. Ypostrategos (Maj.Gen)
4. Syntagmatarches (Colonel)
5. Antisyntagmatarches (Lt.Col)
6. Tagmatarches (Major)
7. Lochagos (Cpt, Moirarchos in Gendarmerie)
8. Ypolochagos (1st Lt, Ypomoirarchos in Gendarmerie)
9. Anthypolochagoss (2nd Lt, Anthypomoirarchos in Gendarmerie)
10. Anthypaspistees (WO)
11. NCOs & men (Infantry)
12. NCOs & men (Artillery)
13. NCOs & men (model 1915)
14. Epilochias (Colour Sergeant, Enomotarches A' in Gendarmerie)
15. Lochias (Sergeant, Enomotarches B' in Gendarmerie)
16. Dekaneas (Cpl, Ypenomotarches in Gendarmerie)
17. Ypodekaneas (Lance Cpl)
18. Hoplites (Pvt, Chorophylax in Gendarmerie)


From left to right: Lieutenant General, Colonel (Engineers), Captain (Line Infantry, Euzones, Staff Officers)

1-Cavalry, Engineers, Supply, Gendarmerie had silver shoulder board (officers), silver lace (NCOs) & silver buttons, other branches gold.
2-Army branch colours: Line Infantry, General Officers, Staff Officers, Euzones-red, Cavalry-bright red, Artillery-dark red pipings, black in brackets, Ordnance, Transportation-dark red, Engineers-blue, Medical,Veterinary-purple, Finance-orange, Gendarmerie-dark blue (almost black).



Euzone Private


Army Academy Cadet, senior student (4th year- holding the Corporal's rank)


Artillery Cpl


Euzone Sgt (Official Uniform)


Infantry Sgt


Cavalry Sgt. From 1898-1915, Cavalry had bright red as distinct colour branch


Scout (Proskopos) Sgt.
Scouts were volunteers, mostly from Crete


Engineers Colour Sergeant (1st Engineers Regiment). From 1898-1915, Engineers had blue as distinct branch colour


Artillery 1st Lt (Ypilarchos). He's wearing the M1868 No1 Uniform, known as "Megale Stolee"-Grand Uniform


Infantry Cpt


Artillery Major, wearing the M1870 Uniform, known as "Mikra Stolee"-Small Uniform


Major General


Royal Hellenic Gendarmerie (Elliniki Vassiliki Chorophylakee) 2nd Lt (Anthypomoirarchos). In the Balkan Wars, Gendarmerie had Military Police duties (Patrolling the occupied areas, Interviewing witnesses, Escorting POWs)



Major of the Italian Garibaldi Volunteers & their Colors. Italian Volunteers (known as Garibaldini or red-suits), fought alongside the Greek Army, especially in Epirus. They used the Greek Army's rank insignia


1st Class Gendarme of the Cretan Gendarmerie. Cretan Gendarmes had MP duties in the Balkan Wars, mostly in the Salonika region. Their ranking system was Greek & the insignia used was a mix of Italian Carabinieri & Greek Army. One silver chevron poin down: Gendarme 1st Class (Chorophylax Protes Taxeos). Two silver chevrons: Gendarmerie Cpl (Ypenomotarches). Three silver chevrons: Gendarmerie Sgt (Enomotarches)


Left: Hellenic Army National Cockade. Right: Cretan Gendarmerie Cockade (with the royal monogram of the Greek Crown Prince George II who was the high commissioner on the island). The anchor stands for the island of Crete


Greek War Flag


ROYAL HELLENIC NAVY-ELLINIKO VASSILIKO NAPHTIKO


Draftee Able Seaman (Naphtes), wearing the winter battle service dress


Draftee Able Seaman, wearing the summer service dress


Draftee Able Seaman of the Marines. The only difference between the Seaman's & the Marine's insignia, was the embroidered hunter's horn under the chevron worn by the Marines


Career Petty Officer (Ypokelephstees A')


Royal Hellenic Navy Cadet, senior student (4th year), holding the Senior Seaman's rank (Diopos). The horn on his left branch, suggests that he's an expert marksman


Royal Hellenic Navy Ensign (Semaeophoros)


Royal Hellenic Navy Commander-Medical Doctor (Antiploiarchos-Iatros), wearing the No2 Official Uniform. Notice that the ubiquitous loop is absent from the insignia (only for line officers)


Royal Hellenic Navy Vice Admiral (Yponavarchos), wearing the No1 Official Uniform

1-Navy branch colours: Engineers-purple, Medical-red, Finance-white, Pharmacist-dark green
2-NCOs & enlisted seamen specialty insignia: anchor-line, five wing star-yeoman, crossed anchor with shovel-machinist's mate, crossed anchor with torpedo-torpedoman, flaming grenade-gunner, horn-marines, red cross-hospital corpsman, propeller-engineer's mate, greek letter Ξ -carpenter's mate, letter I -ordnance repairman, letter T -ship's clerk, letter O -ordnance artificer, letter X -steward, greek letter Σ -cook
3-NCOs rank insignia: one red chevron point up (2cm-3/4 inch thick) on shoulder-draftee able seaman or seaman A' class (naphtes A' taxeos), two red chevrons (2cm) on shoulder-senior seaman (Diopos), one gold chevron (2cm) on shoulder-Draftee Petty Officer or Petty Officer B' (Ypokelphstees B'), one gold chevron (2cm) above one golden chevron (1cm-1/2 inch thick) on shoulder-Career Petty Officer or Petty Officer A' (Ypokelephstees A'), two gold chevrons (2cm) on shoulder-Chief Petty Officer (Kelephstees), three gold chevrons (2cm) on sleeve -Master chief petty officer (Archikelephstees). Master Chief Petty Officer had one gold stripe (5mm/0.2 inch) on the visor cap.
4-RHN cockade consisted of the greek royal arms above the navy anchor placed on the greek national colours cockade, surrounded by laurel leaves


Royal Hellenic Navy Colors

....soon to come, Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria & Ottoman Empire.
Greetings, valtrex

Last edited by valtrex on Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:50 pm; edited 1 time in total



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:26 am

SERBIAN ARMY-SRPSKA VOJSKA





1: Vojvoda (Field Marshal)
2: Djeneral (maj.gen)
3: Djeneral (maj.gen, King's adjutant)
4: Pukovnik (Colonel) 10th Inf.Reg.
5: Potpukovnik (Lt.Col) 2nd Cavalry Reg.
6: Major, General Staff
7: Major, Medical Corps
8: Kapetan I klase (Senior Captain), 6th Field Art. Reg.
9: Kapetan II klase (Captain), Bridging Engineer Btn.
10: Porucnik (1st Lt), Railway Engineer Bn.
11: Porucnik (1st Lt), 2nd Garrison Art. Bn.
12: Potporucnik (2nd Lt), Air Corps
13: Narednik (Sgt), 3rd Engineer Bn.
14: Narednik (Sgt), Serbian Volunteer Corps
15: Podnarednik (Cpl), 1st Cav. Regt.
16: Kaplar (lance Cpl), 9th Mount. Art. Battery
17: Redov (Pvt), Frontier Troops
18: Redov (Pvt), 4th Art. Regt.

Field Marshal & General Officers (Vojvode i Generali) 1-3 : Gold braid cords, gold buttons, grey-blue underlay, silver metal eagle & monogram. Field Officers (Visi Oficiri) 4-7 : Gold (silver on 5,7) braid shoulder board, gold (silver on 5,7) buttons, branch colour piping, silver (gold on 5,7) metal pips & unit insignia. Subaltern Officers (Nizi Oficiri) 8-12 : Gold (silver on 9-12) braid shoulder board, gold (silver on 9-12) buttons, branch colour piping, silver (gold on 9-12) metal pips & unit insignia. NCO (Podoficiri), men (kaplari i redovi) 13-18 : Grey-green uniform strap, gold (silver on 13,15) buttons, gold metal pips & unit insignia.
Serbian Army Branch Colours: Generals-light blue, Staff Officers-scarlet red, Infantry-red, Artillery-black, Cavalry-dark blue, Engineers-purple, Railway units-purple, Ordnance-black, Gerndarmerie-light beige.


Infantry Sgt (Narednik), Infantry Sergeant I class (Narednik I klase, introduced in 1912), Infantry Captain (Kapetan II klase), Cavalry Col (Pukovnik), Lt Gen (Djeneral)


Royal Serbian Army badge. Cyrillic inscription on "ZA KRALJA I OTADZBINU" ("for the King and Fatherland")


Cavalry man wearing the M1890 service uniform


Infantry Cpl (Podnarednik). This Infantry man wears leather boots, known as "opanker"


Infantry 1st Lt (Porucnik), wearing the M1890 official uniform


Infantry Major wearing the M1912 service uniform


Artillery Col (Pukovnik)


Djeneral (Maj.Gen). Notice the light blue stiff collar & the red stripes on the cavalry culottes (lampassen)


Serbian War Flag. The flag had an embroidered eagle with the motto: "For King and Fatherland/with Faith in God" . St. Andrew & campaign streamers were on the reverse

Last edited by valtrex on Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:56 am; edited 4 times in total



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:46 pm

MONTENEGRIN ARMY-CRNAGORSKA VOJSKA





1.Vrhovni Komandant (Field Marshal)
2.Glavni Inspektor (Lt.Gen)
3.Divizijar (Maj.Gen)
4.Brigadir (Brig.Gen, King's Adjutant)
5.Komandir (Lt.Col), Inf.
6.Komandir (Lt.Col), Art.
7.Kapetan (Cpt), Staff
8.Porucnik (1st Lt), MG companies
9.Potporucnik (1at Lt), Engineers
10.Alajbarjaktar (Ensign of the Army)
11.Brigadni Barjaktar (Brigade Ensign)
12.Bataljonski Barjaktar (Btn Ens)
13.Cetni Barjaktar (Company Ens)
14.Vodnik (Sgt)
15.Desecar (Cpl)
16.Perjanik (Pvt), Royal Guard
17.Topnik (Pvt), Artillery
18.Vojnik (Pvt) other branches

General Officers (generali) 1-4 : Gold metal cap badges, gold russian braid shoulder boardes piped crimson, silver braid or metal stars. Field & subaltern officers (oficiri) 5-9 : Gold metal cap badges (5-8 ) (silver scimitars-7, silver eagle, lion, shield-8 ), silver metal cap bdge (9), gold braid shoulder boards piped branch colour, silver metal stars.
Standard bearers (barjaktari) 10-13 : Gold metal cap badges, (10-12) (silver cross-12), silver metal cap badge (13). NCOs (podoficiri) 14-15 & men (vojnici) 16-18 : White metal cap badges.
Montenegrin Army Branch Colours: Generals-red, Staff-white, Technical-white, Infantry-red, MG companies-light blue, Artillery-yellow, Engineers-green, Medical-silver & black stripe, Gendarmerie-red shoulder boards with the letter Z (for ŽANDARMERIJA)


Infantry Cpl (Desecar) wearing the M1910 service dress & the Obilic medal


Infantry Cpt (Kapetan) wearing the M1910 service dress. The medals are the Danilo I & the medal for valor


Third line Infantry man, wearing the traditional Montenegrin uniform


MG companies Captain (Kapetan), Infantry Colonel (Pukovnik, rank introduced in 1912)


The Montenegrin War Flag in 1912. The royal cypher H.I., in the center, stands for king Nikita I, the first king of the Kingdom of Montenegro (1910)

Last edited by valtrex on Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:05 am; edited 2 times in total



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:05 pm

BULGARIAN ARMY-BLGARSKA VOYSKA

For the Bulgarian Army rank insignia, check [glow=red:2631a7d0a8] this [/glow:2631a7d0a8]topic


Cavalry man of the 1st Cavalry Rgt. He's wearing the M1908 service dress (gold King Ferdinand's cypher Φ on shoulder boards)


Cavalry man of the 2nd Cavalry Rgt. He's wearing the M1870 service dress. 1st Cavalry Rgt had white branch piping, 2nd Cavalry Rgt had red, 3rd Cav Rgt had yellow & 4th Cav Rgt had light blue


Pvt (Rednik) of the Elite Infantry Regiment "Clementine". The Regiment's distinct colour was light blue. Cypher K (for princess Klementina) on shoulder boards


Line Infantry Lance-Cpl (Efreytor ot Pechotata), wearing the M1908 battle dress & leather boots known as "opanker"


Line Infantry Sgt (Starshi Podofitser ot Pechotata) wearing the M1908 battle dress & leather boots known as "opanker"


Artillery 1st Sgt (Feldwebel ot Artilleriata). The Feldwebel insignia was the gold lace on the collar & the gold crosscut band on shoulder boards. The chevrons on the left arm suggest 15 months of war service


Infantry 2nd Lt (Podporuchik ot Pechotata) of the Elite Infantry Rgt "Ferdinand". The distinct colour of this regiment was white. Gold Bulgarian Crown & gold cypher Φ on shoulder boards


Infantry Cpt (Kapitan, in Cavalry Rotmister) wearing the M1908 service dress


Infantry Colonel (Polkovnik ot Pechotata) wearing the M1908 service dress


Artillery Col (Polkovnik ot Artilleriata) wearing the M1908 official uniform


Lt. Gen (General-Leytenant) with the M1908 service dress


Man of the National Militia (Narodno Opolecnie) with traditional Bulgarian clothing


Fighter of the Blgarski Komitet (Bulgarian Committe), operating in Macedonia & Thrace (back then under Ottoman rule). These irregulars fought alongside the Bulgarian Army in 1912 against the Ottomans & in 1913 against the Greeks. They used the Bulgarian Army's Insignia


Infantry Sgt (Starshi Podofitser ot Pechotata), Artillery 1st Sgt (Feldwebel ot Artilleriata)


Cavalry Cpt (Rotmister), Infantry Col (Polkovnik), Infantry General (General ot Pechotata)

1-Bulgarian Army Branch Colours & Pipings: Generals-red branch colour, red piping. Staff Officers-velvet black branch colour, red piping. Infantry-red branch colour, red pipings (Rgt Nr on shoulder board except for 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 17th & 22nd Inf Rgts that had the royal cypher on the shoulder boards). 1st Cav Rgt-red shoulder board & collar, white pipings. 2nd Cav Rgt-red shoulder board & collar, red pipings. 3rd Cav Rgt-red shoulder board & collar-yellow pipings. 4th Cav Rgt-purple shoulder board & collar-light blue pipings (Rgt Nr on board except for 3rd & 4th Cav Rgts that had the royal cypher). Artillery-black velvet boards, red pipings. Mountain Artillery-Black velvet shoulder boards, red pipings, cyrillic letter Π on board. Garrison Artillery-black velvet-red pipings, letter K on board. Engineers-velvet black, red pipings, Btn Nr on board. Bridging Engineers-velvet black,red pipings, fouled anchor on shoulder board. Signals-black velvet-red pipings, lightning flashes on shoulder board. Railway companies-velvet black boards, red pipings, winged wheel on shoulder board. Gendarmerie-beige shoulder boards, beige pipings, red aiguillettes.


Bulgarian War Flag

BULGARIAN NAVY-BLGARSKIYA FLOT


BN Petty Officer (Starzina 2)


BN Lt Cdr (kapitan 3 rang)

BN NCOs insignia: One gold crosscut band on shoulder (1cm thick)-Able Seaman (Starshi Matros), two gold bands on shoulder-Petty Officer (Starzina 2), three gold bands on shoulder-Chief Petty Officer (Starzina 1), one gold crosscut band 2cm thick on shoulder: Master Chief Petty Officer-Glavnii Starshina.
Junior, Senior & Flag Officers of the BN used the Army's insignia (gold shoulder boards with black pipings).


Bulgarian Navy Ensign

Last edited by valtrex on Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:00 pm; edited 2 times in total



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:22 pm

OTTOMAN ARMY-Osmanlı İmparatorluğu Ordu


Lancer of the 1st Lancers Rgt of the Sultan Guard


Zouave of the Zouaves Rgt of the Sultan Guard wearing the "Selamlik" uniform


Cavalry man wearing the M1909 battle dress with a hat made of astrakhan fur


Artillery Gunner with the M1909 battle dress


Line Infantry Sgt (Çavus pron. Tzavus) wearing the M1909 battle dress


Light Infantry Sgt (Çavus). Notice the differences between the insignia worn by NCOs of the Line & Light Infantry units


4th Cav Rgt 1st Sgt (Bas-Çavus pron. Bas-Tzavus) of the Sultan Guard. The distinct colour of this Rgt was green. 4th Cav Rgt, Zouaves Rgt & 1st Lancers Rgt formed the Sultan Guard, called "Hassa"


Infantry 2nd Lt (Molazim)


Infantry Cpt (Yüzbasi) wearing the official M1909 uniform


Artillery Cpt (Yüzbasi) wearing the M1909 battle dress


Lt Gen (Ferik or Kor-Pasha) wearing the M1909 service dress


Albanian irregular wearing the Albanian traditional clothing. These irregulars fought alongside the Ottoman Army mostly against the Serbians & Montenegrins (battles of Ipek, Diakova, siege of Shkoder)


Ottoman irregular (Başi-Bazouk) wearing the M1909 battle dress with the traditional Turkish fez & opanker


Shoulder boards, form left to right : General-Mossir or Pasha (One star on board-Lt. Gen/Kor-Pasha or Ferik. No stars on shoulder board-Maj.Gen/Tüm-Pasha or Mirliva). Colonel-Miralay (One star on shoulder board-Lt.Col/Binbaşı. No stars on shoulder board-Major/Kolağası). Captain-Yüzbasi (One star on shoulder board-1st Lt/Tegmen or Molazım-ı evvel. No stars on shoulder board-2nd Lt/Molazim). The buckles shown on the right, are the ones worn on the belts of Navy Flag & Senior Officers (top) & Junior Officers (bottom)

1-Ottoman Army branch colours: Generals-red, Line Infantry-green gray, Light Infantry-green, Artillery-dark blue, Cavalry-light grey, Engineers-blue, Railway companies-light blue, Gendarmerie-red.

2-NCO insignia; Light Infantry: One green chevron point up on sleeve-Cpl/On Başı, two green chevrons-Sgt/Çavus, three green chevrons-Colour Sgt/Baş Çavus. Line Infantry: One red cutcross band on shoulder-Cpl/On Başı, two red bands on shoulder-Sgt/Çavus, three red bands on shoulder-Colour Sgt/Baş Çavus.

IMPERIAL OTTOMAN NAVY-Osmanlı İmparatorluğu Donanma


Marine Petty Officer/Çavus, wearing the battle dress. The only difference between the seaman & marine uniform was the infantry boots worn by the marines


Chief Petty Officer/Bas-Çavus wearing the summer service dress


1st Class Imam, wearing the traditional dress of the muslim clergy. The chevrons point up on the sleeves, suggest his rank


Imperial Navy Cadet wearing the M1909 official uniform. The pin-on metal globe with anchor worn on collars on gold, was the naval academy insignia. The three red stripes on sleeve suggest that he's a junior student (3rd year)


Lieutenant (Yüzbasi)


Imperial Ottoman Fleet Admiral (Kapudan-Pasha)

1-Ottoman Navy NCOs insignia; one red chevron point up on sleeve-Able Seaman/Uzman, two red chevrons-Petty Officer/Onbaşı, three red chevrons-Chief Petty Officer/Çavuş, four red chevrons-Master Chief Petty Officer/Başçavuş.
2-Ottoman Navy Officer insignia; Junior Officers: One gold stripe on sleeve (2cm thick)-Ensign/Molazım, one 2cm gold stripe above one 1cm stripe-Lieutenant Junior Grade/Teğmen, two 2cm thick gold stripes-Lieutenant/Yüzbaşı. Senior Officers: Three 2cm stripes, the first from above silver -Lt Cdr/Binbaşı, three 2cm thick stripes, the one in the middle silver-Commander/Yarbay, three 2cm thick gold stripes-Cpt/Miralay. Flag Officers: Four 2cm stripes, the first from above silver-Rear Admiral lower half/Mirliva, four 2cm thick gold stripes-Rear Admiral upper half/Ferik, three stripes, the last one from above 2.5cm thick & the one in the middle silver-Vice Admiral/Birinci Ferik, three gold stripes, the last one from above 2.5cm thick-Admiral/Moşir. The Imperial Ottoman Fleet Admiral/Kapudan-Pasha insignia is shown on the picture above.


The Imperial Ottoman Navy Ensign

Last edited by valtrex on Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:21 pm; edited 4 times in total



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:48 pm

I apologize for the double post :oops: ...I can't quite explain how it happened. Please erase the last post...thanx



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:45 pm

In fact it has been posted FOUR times.
So I deleted three of them :wink:



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:05 pm



ooops :shock: a bit weird...can't tell what happened...thanx anyway, much obliged
...greetings, valtrex



Back to top

Post subject: Balkan Wars-Turkish

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:38 pm

Valtrex

Hi,i´m Cristiano , from Brazil.

In the British intelligence Book-Handbook of Turkish Army 1916(first edition ,1912) have other information different for your information.

About the officers is ok ,it´s same for me
http://img46.echo.cx/my.php?image=insignia19jn.jpg


Nco Rank Insignia
[highlight=red:868f8dabbc]Sergeant Major- Bas Çavus- 3 stripes
Assistant Sergeant Major- Bas Çavus Mu'avini- 2 stripes
Sergeant- Çavus - 1 stripe
Corporal- On Bashi- no stripes [/highlight:868f8dabbc]
This is in the appendix and on page 135 it says-
"NCO's are distinguished from rank and file by having coloured shoulder
straps, of distinctive colour for the arm (of service) to which they
belong.
To distinguish the different grades of NCO broad traverse bands are
added
(gilt (gold) for combatants and silver for non-combatants). Sergeants
have
one band, assistant sergeant majors have two bands and sergeant majors
3
bands. Corporals have no bands. The shoulder straps are bordered with
red
edging. Sergeant Majors also add a red tassel to their side arms.

[highlight=red:868f8dabbc]A further distinction of bands of distinctive colour above the cuffs is
now
being introduced: in this case a corporal will have one broad band, a
sergeant one broad and one narrow band, an assistant sergeant major two
broad and a sergeant major 3 broad bands [/highlight:868f8dabbc]


:?: :?: :?:
I am not saying that your information is wrong, but I am confused, Which would be the best source, more accurated, its your source of this English
source for these book. :?: :?: :?:

These Image was Taken for Handbook of Turkish Army,Battery Press.
http://img150.echo.cx/my.php?image=n1cos9yu.jpg

Cheers
:?: :?: :?: :?:
Cristiano.



Back to top

Post subject: Re: Balkan Wars-Turkish

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:22 am



Hi Cristiano...
Well my sources are some Greek editions based on the official archives of the Hellenic Army History Directorate of the Hellenic Army...
I'm pretty sure that the rank of Assistant Colour Sgt (Bas-Çavus Mu'avini) was introduced just before the WWI (in 1914). Almost every Balkan state changed the Army structure & the insignia in use, in 1914 or 1915 (Greece for instance changed the Army structure & introduced new ranks, under the advices of the French military mission to Greece, the Ottomans did the same with the Germans). These NCO & Officer ranks I've posted are strickly for the period of the 1st & 2nd Balkan Wars (1912-1913). Hope this helps
...greetings, valtrex



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:53 am

In fact Cristiano, I did made that mistake regarding the Army NCOs; I'm quoting from the book Balkan Wars Insignia, Athens 1987 (please forgive any mistakes, I'm translating directly from Greek):

Ottoman Army introduced for the first time European style uniforms in 1828-29, influenced by the French. The Prussian (or German) influence appeared in 1890 & in 1909 the Ottomans adopted a new service dress (Model 1909 or M1909). The NCO insignia was placed on the branch-colour shoulder strap. One crosscut band (1cm thick) of [highlight=red:2d12d04879]red[/highlight:2d12d04879] colour was used to distinguish the rank of Cpl (Onbasi), two 1cm-thick red bands for Sgt (Cavus), one [highlight=gold:2d12d04879]gold[/highlight:2d12d04879] crosscut band (that's my mistake) for Colour Sgt (or as you have posted, Assistant Sgt.Maj.-Bascavus mu'azini) & two 1cm-thick gold crosscut bands for Sgt.Maj. (Bascavus)
So, I apologize to you & to our friends, you were obviously right. Thankfully, the Navy ranks are correct. :lol:
So, the correct NCO rank chart of the Ottoman Army in 1912, goes like this:
-one 1cm-thick red crosscut band on branch-colour shoulder strap-Onbasi
-two 1cm-thick red crosscut bands on branch-colour shoulder strap-Cavus
-one 1cm-thick gold crosscut band on branch-colour shoulder strap-Bascavus mu'azini
-two 1cm-thick gold crosscut bands on branch-colour shoulder strap-Bascavus

For Officers: Prussian Feldachselstück style shoulder boards.



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:15 am

Btw, I just found two interesting illustrations on the book "The invasion on Chios: The Liberation of the island in 1912" (Ath.2003) :


A popular lithograph of the period that shows the Greek Marines invading Chios; It gives an idea of the Greek Marines & Ottoman uniforms of the period


An artistic illustration of a Greek Marine in 1912 holding the Able Seaman's rank. The only difference between the Seaman & marine insignia, was the embroidered red horn under the chevron worn by the marines



Back to top

Post subject: Balkan Wars

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:45 pm

Valtrex

:D :D Excellent images! :D :D




:? :?: :? :?: But i still remain with confuse, because the british intelling say the [fade:345e9db4c9]turkish corporal [/fade:345e9db4c9]don´t use band in the shoulder, the bands begining in Çavus(sergeant) and have gold colour
or silver for non combatant.


Look
:shock: http://img150.echo.cx/my.php?image=n1cos9yu.jpg :shock:

:idea: :idea: :idea: Do you know a turkish in these forum? Have turkish in these forum ?

I believe that a turkish can finish with my doubt and your doubt.
Cheers :D :D :D :D

Cristiano Campos
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil.



Back to top

Post subject: Balkan Wars

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:39 pm

Valtrex



I found these others photos wth turkish soldiers wearing rank insignias in the cuff, look the soldiers in teh middle of the photo.




[highlight=red:8ed75fe4c3]http://www.geh.org/ar/strip07/htmlsrc/m197501115177_ful.html#topofimage[/highlight:8ed75fe4c3]


And these other photo, with a possible Onbasi (corporal)for the Fire Brigade

[glow=red:8ed75fe4c3]http://www.geh.org/ar/chus/turkey/m197501115070_ful.html#topofimage[/glow:8ed75fe4c3]
[glow=red:8ed75fe4c3]"A further distinction of bands of distinctive colour above the cuffs is
now
being introduced:
in this case a corporal will have one broad band,

a
sergeant one broad and one narrow band,

an assistant sergeant major two

broad

and a sergeant major 3 broad bands "[/glow:8ed75fe4c3]


:( :( Valtrex, sorry if i make many questions about Turks, i know that the Greek people very suffered with the Turks. :( :(


Cheers

Cristiano
Rio
Brazil



Back to top

Post subject: Re: Balkan Wars

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:17 pm



Cristiano,
the first photo shows men-I'm sure of it-of the WWI era (they wear the kabalak field cap. In the pre-WWI years, Ottoman troops worn red fez & officers fez made of astrachan fur). It's definitely post Balkan wars photo. For the second photo ????
PS: Yes we have suffered alot & my family have paid a great deal too. We Greeks definitely won't forget what happened-history is history-but it's time to go on. We have to live in peace for the prosperity of our peoples. So, no harm made :wink:
...greetings, valtrex



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:13 pm

Thank you very much for the pictures, Valtrex - they are great!!!

Unfortunately, Ottoman ones are mostly incorrect. Recently I was in the Istanbul and managed to visit their military museums.
So:
1. Both Zouaves Rgt were disbanded before 1912.
2. Even if there was "blue" uniform in some reserve units, it should have new insignia - not old Abdul-Hamidean shevrones.
3. After 1909 fez was abolished in the Army - only Kalpaks or Kabalaks were worn (fez still could be fount, but I doubt that it was worn with the new uniform).
4. Infantry 2nd Lt should have colored collar of his greatcoat.
5. Artillery Cpt and Ferik both wear German Iron Cross 2nd grade ribbons, which is impossible during Balkan Wars. Also uniform color is incorrect. Ferik also should have red collar and black kalpak (IIRC, only Ertogul regiment was allowed grey ones).
6. Stars on the shoulder straps are incorrect - see DDR generals stars.



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:52 am


Eugen thanx, welcome on board :)
Is it possible to post a simple chart of the Ottoman ranks of the period & a description of the insignia?
....greetings, valtrex



Back to top

Post subject: Turkish NCO Puzzle

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:30 pm

Eugen and Valtrex


I have these rank chart taken in Batery Press book-Handbook Turiksh Army.


http://img150.echo.cx/my.php?image=n1cos9yu.jpg


This is in the appendix and on page 135 it says-
[/I] NCO's are distinguished from rank and file by having coloured shoulder
straps, of distinctive colour for the arm (of service) to which they
belong.
To distinguish the different grades of NCO broad traverse bands are
added
(gilt (gold) for combatants and silver for non-combatants). Sergeants
have
one band, assistant sergeant majors have two bands and sergeant majors
3
bands. Corporals have no bands. The shoulder straps are bordered with
red [/I]edging. Sergeant Majors also add a red tassel to their side arms.

A further distinction of bands of distinctive colour above the cuffs is
now
being introduced: in this case a corporal will have one broad band, a
sergeant one broad and one narrow band, an assistant sergeant major two
broad and a sergeant major 3 broad bands

So, this is a british version of Turkish NCO Rank Insignia, a different for Valtrex Greek Book, because in british book the CORPORAL don´t have bands and the bands are in only two collors, GOLD and SILVER

In these british book it´s say that turkish NCO used rank insignia only in the Shoulder Straps or in the CUFFS.


Now, the real puzzle
http://www.uniformfotos.de/200.html

These photo is a german officer, but for me is NCO, because he is used bands and no used Prussian Feldachselstück style shoulder boards.

But in these photo in the shoulder strap have 04 BANDS, and in british book BANDS finish in 03 :!: :?: :!: :?:
look again.

http://img150.echo.cx/my.php?image=n1cos9yu.jpg


And in my Osprey book about Ottoman Army in 1914-1918 have a Stormtrooper Plate with a possible rank insignia in CHEVRON,these soldiers wearing german SteelHelmet, but i believe that chevrons are abolished in 1909 unifom.


Eugen , which is your opinion about Turkish NCO rank insignia, which is your version? Do you see something about this in your visit in Turkey?

I Have two letters received from ASKERI MÜZE, military museum, located in Istanbul, but all these letters are writing in Turkish language!!

In these forum have a turkish language translator?


Cheers for all

Cristiano
Rio
Brazil.



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:32 am

Hello all,

First of all, there is no NCO uniforms in Askeri Muze (at least for that period).

As for my information, the most correct is British handbook, save one thing - shoulder straps were made of uniform cloth, not of distinctive colour for the arm (look at your picture from Turkish official history - ritemost shoulder strap). Note, that during the war it seems that privates wore no shoulder straps at all.

Cuff insignia were introduced in 1916.

Valtrex, ASA I'll find some time, I'll do this chart.



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:27 pm

To be honest, I am a bit confused about the crown shown at the bulgarians. It does not look much like the crown I found on the ranks insignia or the various bulgarian decorations. Could someone explain this to me? Thanks a lot

David



Back to top

Post subject: Turkish NCO

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:30 pm

Eugen, look these photo, this is a original turkish Basçavus Mu`avini tunic
with colured shoulder strap.

http://www.historicalimagebank.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album127&id=W1g10d_Turkish_other_ranks_tunic_wpi_psd

Look these famous scene of film Lawrence Arabia-Lawrence prisoner of Turkish Bey, look the NCO extreme right, used shoulder strap without colour, so , i believe have two styles, with or without colour.

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/MyWebFilms/Drama/LawTurk3.htm

David, about bulgarian , Valtrex and Eugen can help you.


Cheers

Cristiano
Rio
Brazil.



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:54 pm


David, the Bulgarian crown is this:

Bulgarian crown looks like the Prussian one (Bulgaria's first King was Czar Ferdinand of Wettin)



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:38 pm

ROYAL ROMANIAN ARMY-Armata Regală Română




1-General de Corp de Armata (General)
2-General de Divizie (Lt.Gen)
3-General de Brigada (Maj.Gen)
4-Colonel (Infantry)
5-Locotenent-colonel (Lt.Col)-General Staff
6-Maior (Major)-5th Line Cavalry Reg
7-Capitan (Captain)-Field Artillery
8-Locotenent (1st Lt)-Engineers
9-Sublocotenent (2nd Lt)-Territorial Cavalry
10-Plutonier Maior (Color Sgt)-1st Inf Rgt
11-Plutonier (Sgt)-4th Line Cavalry Rgt
12-Sergent Maior (Lance-Sergeant)-10th Engineer Btn
13-Sergent (Cpl)-Air Corps
14-Caporal (Lance-Corporal)-9th Light In Rgt
15-Fruntas (Senior Pvt)-2nd Calarasi Rgt
16-Soldat (Pvt)-11th Artillery Rgt


Infantry Corporal (Sergent) with the M1912 battle dress


Light Infantry Sgt (Plutonier). This uniform was inspired by the typical dress of the Wallachian border troops. The point up chevron on the sleeve, suggests the rank


Lancer of the 4th "Rosiori" Cavalry Regiment wearing the M1912 battle dress. The Rosiori Regiment composed of volunteers (25%) & career officers, NCOs & men (75%)


1st Lt (Locotenent) of the 2nd "Calarasi" Cavalry Regiment. The Calarasi Regiment composed of volunteers (75%) & career officers, NCOs & men (25%). This officer is dressed in the Official Hussar Uniform


Infantry 1st Lt (Locotenent) wearing the M1912 battle dress


Lt. Gen (General de Divizie) wearing the M1912 service dress. Notice the black cavalry culottes (lampassen) with the two red stripes


Romanian National cockade, Color Sergeant's (Plutonier Major) board, Romanian Royal Cypher (the typical officer's badge of the Romanian Navy worn on the visor cap, above a silver, surrounded by laurel leaves, anchor), General's (General de corp de armata) shoulder board, Infantry Colonel's (Colonel) board, Infantry Captain's (Capitan) board


Romanian War Flag

ROYAL ROMANIAN NAVY-Marina Regală Română


RRN Lieutenant (Câpitan de marinâ)

Branch colors of the Romanian Navy:
Black-Line officers
Prussian Blue-Navy engineers
Violet-Mechanics
Zinober Red-Medics
Green-Pharmacists
Grey Musicians

Royal Romanian Navy Ranks:
Amiral
Vice-Amiral
Contra-Amiral
Comandor
Câpitan-comandor
Locotenent-comandor
Câpitan de marinâ
Locotenent de marinâ
Aspritant de marinâ
Plutonier maior
Plutonier
Sergent maior
Sergent
Caporal
Marinar frinklas
Marinar


Royal Romanian Navy Ensign



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:56 pm

1912-1913 MEDALS & ORDERS

-GREECE


Order of the Redeemer. Grand Commander of the Order of the Redeemer. The obverse of the Star and the Cross bears a portrait of the Redeemer in enamel with the legend «IN YOUR RIGHT HAND, LORD, THE POWER AND THE GLORY».
The reverse of the Cross bears the Greek cross with the legend «THE IVth NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF THE HELLENES AT ARGOS - 1829».
The Order consists of five grades or classes


Gold Medal for Valor. The obverse on the Cross bears an icon of St. George slaying the dragon.
The reverse bears the legend "AXIA" (Valor)


Commemorative Medal for the Balkan War of 1912


Commemorative Medal for the Balkan War of 1913

-SERBIA


Order of the Cross of Tarkovo


Order of the White Eagle


Order of St.Sava. Grand Commander


Order of Milos the Great. Breast Star


Order of the Star of Karadjordjevic


Medal for Devoted Service (ZA REVNOSNU SLUZBU), 1913


Medal for Bravery "Milos Obilic" (ZA HRABROST-"For bravery")


Commemorative medal for the First Balkan War (1912)


Commemorative medal for the Second Balkan War (1913)


Gold medal for military virtues (ZA VOJNICKE VRLINE)

-MONTENEGRO


Prince Danilo I Order. Grand Commander


Order of St. Petar


Medal for Bravery


The Obilic Medal

-OTTOMAN EMPIRE

Order of the Turkish Crescent


High Order of Honor (Nishani Ali Imtiyaz)


Osmanli Order (Nishani Osmanli)


Order of the Illustrious Ottoman Dynasty (Hanedani Ali Osman Nishani)



Imtiyaz Medal (Imtiyaz Madalyasi). 1st & 2nd Class "Medal for Those That Have Shown Exceptional Loyalty and Bravery for the Ottoman Empire"


Liyakat Medal (Liyakat Madalyasi). "Medal of Merit Specially for Those Who Have Shown Loyalty and Bravery"

-BULGARIA


Order of St. Cyril & Methodius. Grand Commander


Royal Order of st. Alexander

Order of King Ferdinand

Medal of Military Merit 1st Class

Medal of Military Merit

Medal for Bravery "За храбрость"

-ROMANIA


Order of Carol I. Breast Star


Order of the Star of Romania


Order of the Crown of Romania


Military Virtue Medal 1st Class (left), 2nd Class (right)



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:43 am

1st & 2nd BALKAN WARS, ORDER OF BATTLE

1st Balkan War

The Balkan League (Greece, Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria) won a series of comprehensive military victories over Ottoman forces.
September 25, 1912 : The Kingdom of Montenegro declares war on the Ottoman Empire.
October 4, 1912 : The Kingdom of Serbia & the Tsardom of Bulgaria declare war on the Ottoman Empire.
October 5, 1912 : The Kingdom of Greece declares war on the Ottoman Empire.

2nd Balkan War

The Second Balkan War began on June 29, 1913 . On that date a Bulgarian general, acting without orders from his government, launched an attack on Serbian defensive positions. The Bulgarian government disavowed this attack, but on July 8 , Serbia and Greece declared war. Within the next two weeks Montenegro, Romania, and the Ottoman Empire entered the war against Bulgaria. On July 30 , Bulgaria, unable to withstand this coalition, asked for and received an armistice. By the ensuing peace agreement, signed at Bucharest, Romania, on August 10 , Bulgaria lost considerable territory, including nearly 7,770 sq km (nearly 3,000 sq mi) allotted to Romania. By later agreements Bulgaria also yielded a large territory to the Turks.

The Opposing Forces:

1-GREECE


-ARMY

The Standard of the 7th Battalion of the 2/39 Euzone Regiment. The embroidered laurel leaves suggest that the unit fought in 1912 (battles of Pesta, Aetorachi, Ioannina) & 1913 (battle of Nevrokopi)

C-i-C: Crown Prince Constantine


Staff: Maj.Gen/Ypostrategos Panayotis Danglis (chief of the Greek general staff). XO: Colonel/Syntagmatarches Victor Dousmanes

According to the 1912 Mobilization Plan, the Greek Army consisted of two General Headquarters: The Thessaly Army General Headquarters/Elliniki Stratia Thessalias and the Epirus Army Headquarters/Elliniki Stratia Epirou

-EPIRUS ARMY HQ

Infantry

-15th Infantry Regiment*
-3rd Euzones Battalion*
-3rd Independent Euzones Battalion*
-7th Euzones Battalion*
-10th Reserve Euzones Battalion*
-2nd National Guard Battalion*
[*From December 12, 1912, VIII Infantry Division, under Major General/Ypostrategos Sapountzakis]

Artillery

-III/4 Field Artillery Squadron
-II Mountain Artillery Squadron
-II Siege Artillery Squadron of 150mm

Cavalry

-4th Troop/2nd Cavalry Regiment

Engineers

-Engineer Company
-Telegraphists Platoon
-One Stretcher-bearers Squadron
-Three Operating Theatres
-Three Medical Units
-One Ammunition Supply Column Squadron
-One Supply Column
-Line of Communications Service

Reinforments

-Independent Cretans Regiment (Lt.Colonel/Antisyntagmatarches Epameinondas Zymvrakakis)
-105mm Heavy Battery
-II Infantry Division
-Independent Infantry Battalion
-Grevena Detachment
-IV Infantry Division
-24th Marines Regiment
-VI Infantry Division
-IX Infantry Division (under Major General/Ypostrategos Arvanites):
-24th Infantry Regiment
-25th Infantry Regiment
-26th Infantry Regiment
-5th Field Artillery Battery
-Cavalry Half-squadron

-Mixed Chios Detachment (four Infantry Battalions, two Mountain Artillery Batteries)
-2nd Cavalry Regiment (Two Squadrons)
-2nd Infantry Regiment (from the Ist Division)
-4th Infantry Regiment (from the Ist Division)
-Optical Telegraph Unit
-Three Wireless Sections

Volunteer Corps

-Various Scout units of Epirotan and Cretan Volunteers. 77 Cretan Scouts Corps (3,556 men), 9 Epirotans Scouts Corps (446 men) and 9 Macedonians Scouts Corps (1,812 men)
-Cretans Militia Company (600 men)
-Volunteer Company of Greeks living in New York, USA
-Redshirt Garibaldi Corps. The Garibaldi Corps was a volunteer force first created by the Italian Giuseppe Garibaldi in 1860 to fight with the "...ones fighting for their freedom..." . His son, Ricioti Garibaldi took part in the Balkan Wars, on the side of Greece, in command of about 2,300 foreign and Greek volunteers . 1,100 Greeks, 1,200 Foreign volunteers (mostly Italians).

-THESSALY ARMY HQ

Infantry

-A' Army Corps (I and II Infantry Divisions)
I Infantry Division (Major General/Ypostrategos Emmanuel Manousoyiannakis):
-2nd Infantry Regiment
-4th Infantry Regiment
-5th Infantry Regiment
-I Squadron/1st Field Artillery Regiment
-II Squadron/1st Field Artillery Regiment
-Sappers Company
-Optical Telegraph Company
-Cavalry Half-Squadron

II Infantry Division (Major General/Ypostrategos Constantine Kallaris):
-1st Infantry Regiment
-3rd Infantry Regiment
-7th Infantry Regiment
-I Squadron/2nd Field Artillery Regiment
-II Squadron/2nd Field Artillery Regiment
-Sappers Company
-Optical Telegraph Company
-Cavalry Half-Squadron

-B' Army Corps (III and IV Infantry Divisions)
III Infantry Division (Major General/Ypostrategos Constantine Damianos):
-6th Infantry Regiment
-10th Infantry Regiment
-12th Infantry Regiment
-I Squadron/3rd Field Artilley Regiment
-II Squadron/3rd Field Artilley Regiment
-III Mountain Artillery Squadron
-Sappers Company
-Telegraphists Platoon
-Cavalry Half-Squadron

IV Infantry Division (Major General/Ypostrategos Constantine Moschopoulos):
-8th Infantry Regiment
-9th Infantry Regiment
-11th Infantry Regiment
-I Squadron/4th Field Artillery Regiment
-II Squadron/4th Field Artillery Regiment
-I Mountain Artillery Squadron
-Sappers Company
-Telegraphists Platoon
-Cavalry Half-Squadron

-C' Army Corps (with the mobilized V and VI Infantry Divisions)
V Infantry Division (Major General/Ypostrategos Stephanos Gennadis):
-16th Infantry Regiment
-22nd Infantry Regiment
-23rd Infantry Regiment
-III Squadron/1st Field Artillery Regiment
-Mountain Artillery Squadron
-Sappers Company
-Telegraphists Platoon
-Cavalry Half-Squadron

VI Infantry Division (Major General/Ypostrategos Nicholaos Delagrammatikas):
-1st Euzones Regiment
-17th Infantry Regiment
-18th Infantry Regiment
-III Squadron/2nd Field Artillery Regiment
-Sappers Company
-Telegraphists Platoon
-Cavalry Half-Squadron

VII Infantry Division (independent, Major General/Ypostrategos Napoleon Sotiles):
-19th Infantry Regiment
-20th Infantry Regiment
-21st Infantry Regiment
-Machine-gun Squadron
-III Squadron/3rd Field Artillery Regiment
-Sappers Company

X Infantry Division (independent, Major General/Ypostrategos Constantine Bakopoulos):
-3rd Euzones Regiment (3rd Euzones Battalion, 3rd Independent Euzones Battalion, one Infantry Battalion)
-4th Evzones Regiment (1st and 4th Euzones Battalion)
-5th Euzones Regiment (2nd and 6th Euzones Battalion, one Infantry Battalion)
-Field Artillery Squadron
-IInd Mountain Artillery squadron
-X Cavalry Half-squadron
-X Engineer Company
-Telegraphists Platoon
-Ammunition Squadron
-Medical Squadron
-Supply Column

Thessaloniki Fortress Command
-27th Infantry Regiment
-28th Infantry Regiment
-29th Marines Landing Regiment
-Fortress Artillery Battalion ( 1st Fortress Artillery Battalion )
-25th Euzones Occupation Company
-Nine Machinegun Platoons

Occupation Army of Macedonia
-Two Occupation Battalions
-Thirty three Occupation Companies

L.O.C. Service of Macedonia
-Engineer Service
-Veterinary Service
-L.O.C. Battalion
-1st Field Artillery Transported Squadron
-2nd Field Artillery Transported Squadron

Independent Units:
-1st, 2nd, 4th and 6th Euzones Battalions
-1st and 3rd National Guard Battalions
-Gennadis Euzones Detachment (1st, 4th Euzones Btns, at the disposal of V ID)
-Constantinopoulos Euzones Detachment (2nd, 6th Euzones Btns, independent, under Lt.Colonel/Antisyntagmatarches Constantine Constantinopoulos)

Cavalry

-The Cavalry Brigade (Major General/Ypostrategos Alexandros Soutsos)
with the 1st & 3rd Cavalry Regiment

Artillery

-1st Siege Artillery Squadron

Engineers

-Seven Sapper Companies (organic to Divisions)
-Two Bridgelayers Companies
-Two Telegraphists Companies

Other Units

-Two Stretcher-bearers Squadrons
-Eight Operating Theatres
-One Supply Column
-Line of Communications Service
-One Army Aviation Flotilla with four airplanes

NOTES:
-Each Division consisted of: Staff, three Infantry Regiments and one Field Artillery Regiment.
-The Division artillery came from the following Field Artillery Regiments: 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
-The Infantry Regiment consisted of: Three-company battalions and two machine-gun platoons
-The Field Artillery Regiment consisted of two or three-battery squadrons
-Each Euzones Battalion consisted of: Four companies and two machine-gun platoons
-Each Mountain Artilley Squadron consisted of: Two or three batteries
-The Cavalry Brigade consisted of: Two Cavalry Regiments (1st & 3rd) of four companies and two platoons each
-1st Fortress Artillery Battalion was the IInd Siege Artillery Squadron, equipped with heavy 105mm and 150mm weapons. It moved from the Epirus front to the Macedonia front in April 1913 . It was reinforced with weapons from war booty, the Larissa Fortress, the coastal defences and the Ministry of the Navy and renamed 1st Fortress Artillery Battalion. In the beginning it was composed of two batteries, then more and by June 15th, 1913 it had a total of fifty four guns.
-27th Infantry Regiment formed in June 17,1913 by the Thessaloniki Fortress Command, consisting of the Ist and IInd Independent Infantry Battalions (which had been formed by the Ist Division).
-28th Infantry Regiment formed in June 19,1913 by the Thessaloniki Fortress Command, consisting of two independent Infantry Battalions (which had been formed by the IIIrd Division) and one Cavalry Squadron on Foot (which had been organised by the 2nd Cavalry Regiment).


Infantry Small Arms:

The Greeks adopted the 6.5mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer rifle in 1903. This rifle utilised the Mannlicher two-piece rotating bolt with the rotating spool type magazine which was developed by Otto Schoenauer

Carbine Mannlicher-Schoenauer Mod.Mo3/14 in use by the Cavalry

Schwarzlose 6.5mm Machine-Gun

The Greeks field 129,000 men



-Navy


C-i-C: Vice-Admiral/Yponavarchos Pavlos Kountouriotis


Pre-Dreadnought Battleships

- Georgios Averoff
(two Armstrong 234mm twin-guns, four 195mm twin-guns, sixteen 75mm guns, three 45cm torpedo-tubes)

Cruisers

- Psara
(five 150mm guns, eight 65mm guns, three 27mm guns)
- Hydra
(five 150mm guns, eight 65mm guns, three 27mm guns)
- Spetsae
(five 150mm guns, eight 65mm guns, three 27mm guns)

Destroyers

- Leon (D-50)
(four Bethlehem 11,1' guns, one 37mm A/A gun, six 21' Torpedo-tubes)
- Panther (D-72)
(four Bethlehem 11,1'guns, one 37mm A/A gun, six 21' Torpedo-tubes)
- Ierax (D-36)
(four Bethlehem 11,1'guns, one 37mm A/A gun, six 21' Torpedo-tubes)
- Aetos (D-01)
(four Bethlehem 11,1'guns, one 37mm A/A gun, six 21' Torpedo-tubes)
- Nea Genea
(four Krupp 88mm guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Keravnos
(four Krupp 88mm guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Niki
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Doxa
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Velos
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Aspis
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Thyella
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Naphkratoussa
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Lonchi
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Sphendone
(two 76mm Hotchkiss guns, four 57mm Hotchkiss guns, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)

Torpedo Boats

- T-11
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- T-12
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- T-14
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- T-15
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- T-16
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)

Submarines

- Delphin
(five 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Xiphias
(five 45cm Torpedo-tubes)

Gunboats

- Aktion
(three 76mm Hotchkiss guns, one 150mm Vickers gun, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Amvrakia
(three 76mm Hotchkiss guns, one 150mm Vickers gun, two 45cm Torpedo-tubes)

Patrol Boats

- A
(one 120mm Krupp gun)
- B
(one 120mm Krupp gun)
- C
(one 120mm Krupp gun)
- D
(one 120mm Krupp gun)



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:53 am

2-Bulgaria



-Army

The Standard of the 2nd Horse Regiment

C-i-C: Tsar Ferdinand


Chief of the Bulgarian general staff: Lt.General/General-Leytenant Mikhail Savov. XO: Maj.Gen/General-Mayor Ivan Fichev
-1st Army: Maj.Gen/General-Mayor Vassil Kutinchev (79,370 men)
-2nd Army: Maj.Gen/General-Mayor Nikola Ivanov (122,748 men)
-3rd Army: Maj.Gen/General-Mayor Radko Dimitriev (94,884 men)

1st Bulgarian Army
-5th Infantry Division (1st and 2nd Brigade)
-9th Infantry Division (1st and 2nd Brigade)
-Otdelnata Brigade (65th and 66th Regiment)
-One Cavalry Squadron from 4th Cavalry Regiment
-Vidin Garrison
-four volunteer drujini (battalions)
-Vidin stronghold artillery.
Total-34 Battalions,2 Cavalry Squadrons, 19 Batteries

2nd Bulgarian Army
-3rd Infantry Division
-1st Brigade (from 10th Infantry Division)
-Dramska Brigade
-Serska Brigade
-11th Infantry Division
-Portolagoski Garrison (Two infantry Battalions, one Cavalry Squadron, one field artillery battery)
-Dedeagachki garrison (Four infantry divisions, two Field Artillery and two 150mm howitzer batteries)

3rd Bulgarian Army
-1st Infantry Division
-13th Infantry Division
-2nd infantry Brigade
-46th Infantry Regiment (from 5th Infantry Division)
-The Cavalry Division
Total: 40 Infantry Battalion, 17 Cavalry Squadrons, 30 Artillery Batteries

4th Bulgarian Army (2nd Balkan War)
-Makedono-Odrinsko Opalchenie (Volunteers, 48,523 men)
-2nd Infantry Brigade (from 4th Infantry Division)
-7th Infantry Division (without 3rd Infantry Brigade)
-8th Infantry Division
-1st Infantry Brigade (from 3rd Infantry Division)
-2nd Infantry Division
-3rd Infantry Brigade (from 7th Infantry Division)
-Army HQ
-5th Cavalry regiment
-7th Opalchenie (Volunteers) Regiment
Total: 99 Infantry Battalions, 63 Artillery Batteries, 6 Cavalry Squadrons
130,000 men strong

5th Bulgarian Army (2nd Balkan War)
-12 Infantry Division
4th Infantry Division
-Odrinska Brigade
-6th Cavalry Regiment
-3rd Infantry Brigade (from 5th Infantry Division)
Total: 38 Battalions, 3 Cavalry Squadrons, 27 Artillery Batteries

NOTE: The country was divided into nine military districts, each of which housed a division; each division was comprised of four infantry regiments in two brigades, two squadrons of cavalry, a regiment of field artillery, and an engineer battalion with telegraph, pontoon, railway, balloon and mining sections . A peacetime infantry regiment had two battalions-each made up of four rifle companies, a machine-gun company of two guns and a service company . On mobilization, two extra divisions were formed-the 10th, with two brigades , and the 11th with three . With the addition of reservists, the 72 battalions of the peacetime establishment expanded to 288 battalions of 1,000 men each; the basic machine-gun detachment doubled in size, from two 8mm Maxims to four. A rifle company numbered 270 men, plus eight pioneers; a regiment consisted of 70 officers and 4,550 men, of whom 4,000 were riflemen. The service company strength was three officers and 200 men.
According to an Austrian military analyst, in 1909 the Bulgarian field army had a potential strength of 378,000 troops, and the militia 57,600. The backbone of the active army's field artillery was 81 batteries of Schneider-Canet 75mm quick-firing cannons, with a total of 324 guns. There were also 324 Krupp field guns in 54 six-gun batteries. The mountain artillery consisted of 54 Krupp guns in nine batteries; 36 Schneiders, also in nine batteries, and 54 older guns, possibly Russian or Turkish. There were nine batteries each of four quick-firing howitzers and five batteries each of six field howitzers, making a grand total of 858 guns in 176 batteries. In addition to the field artillery, the Bulgarians had three groups of fortress artillery; each group had two batteries and each battery four 155mm howitzers, with 12 munition wagons. Foreign observers at the annual maneuvers were always impressed by the skill of the mounted artillery drivers, who galloped into action at 15-yard intervals and turned the guns around before they were unlimbered.
The cavalry was comprised of three Guard squadrons and 10 line regiments , of which the first four regiments had four squadrons each and formed a division . Regiments 5 through 10 had three squadrons each , and those 18 squadrons were attached in pairs to the nine divisional districts

Infantry Small Arms:

Mannlicher Mod.1888 8mm (Infantry, Engineers)

Mannlicher Mod.1895 8mm of the elite Infantry Regiments

Bulgarian Cavalry, Carbine Mannlicher Mod.1890 8mm

Maxim 8mm machine gun

Bulgarians field 599,878 men


"Na nos!" ("With the bayonet")


-Navy


C-i-C: Vice-Admiral/Vicheadmiral Stancho Dimitriev


Torpedo Boats

- Smeli
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Khrabry
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Drsky
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Schummi
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Lietiachty
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Strogi
(Twin 37mm gun, three 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Botev
(one 37mm gun, two 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)
- Levski
(one 37mm gun, two 35.6cm Torpedo-tubes)



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:58 am

Impressive stuff valtrex, thanks for such a quality upload.

Greetings, Miloš



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:22 pm



Greetings Milos, thanks for your remarks...

3-Montenegro


Army

The Krstas-barjak (the Cross-Banner), the Standard of the Montenegrin Units

C-i-C: Kralj (King) Nikita I


Chief of General Staff: Vrohni-Komandant/Field Marshal Veljko Lazarovic

The Montenegrin army, organized on a territorial-tribal principle, was divided into three forces:

Zeta Force with five Brigades (Crown Prince Danilo I)
-4th Zetska Brigada (Prince Petar)-6 Battalions
-6th Spuska Brigada (komandir Milutin Vucinic)-4 Battalions
-7th Niksicka Brigada (komandir Djuro Jovovic)-6 Battalions
-8th Vucedolska Brigada (komandir Marko Radovic)-5 Battalions
-9th Durmitorska Brigada (komandir Joko Adjic)-6 Battalions
-2nd & 3rd Heavy Artillery Batteries
-2nd & 3rd Field Artillery Batteries
-2nd & 3rd Supply Companies
Total Force: 15,000 men

Eastern Force with four Brigades (Major General/Divizijar Janko Vukotic)
-10th Kolasinka Brigada (komandir Milos Medenica)-6 Battalions
-11th Gornjo-Vasojevicka Brigada (komandir Radomir Vesovic)-6 Battalions
-12th Dornjo-Vasojevicka Brigada (Komandir Avro Cemovic)-5 Battalions
-13th Bijelopavlicka Brigada (komandir Agica Lakic)-5 Battalions
-5th Heavy Artillery Battery
-5th Field Artillery Battery
-5th Supply Company
Total Force: 12,600 men

Coastal Force with three Brigades (Major General/Divizijar Mitar Martinovic)
-1st Katunska Brigada (komandir Milutin Vukotic)-6 Battalions
-2nd Rijecko-Ljesanska Brigada (komandir Niko Kusovac)-4 Battalions
-3rd Crmnicko-Primorska Brigada (komandir Milos Lecic)-7 Battalions
-1st Heavy Artillery Battery
-1st Field Artillery Battery
-1st Supply Company
Total Force: 8,000 men

NOTES: A Montenegrin Brigade had between 4-10 infantry battalions, in about four or five clan based companies, each with five platoons. Each artillery battery had about 100 men

Infantry Small Arms:

Mosin-Nagant Mod.1891, 7.62mm of the Montenegrin Army

Revolver Gasser, Mod.1870, 11 mm, known as the "Montenegrin revolver" in the Balkans

Maxim Mod.1910, 7.62mm of the Machine-Gun Companies



Back to top

Post subject:

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:31 am

Great topci Valtrex.
More pictures of Serbian army:














Back to top

Reply to topic
Page 1 of 1    






View previous topic   View next topic
All times are GMT

Display posts from previous:  All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First 

Jump to:  Select a forum ADMINISTRATION----------------ANNOUNCEMENT & INFORMATIONGENERAL DISCUSSIONS (Rank comparison, translation issues etc) EUROPEAN CONTINENT----------------EUROPE - MILITARY BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAEUROPE - MILITARY BADGES & PATCHESEUROPE - MILITARY MEDALS & DECORATIONSEUROPE - LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAEUROPE - LAW ENFORCEMENT BADGES & PATCHESEUROPE - LAW ENFORCEMENT MEDALS & DECORATIONSEUROPE - FIRE & RESCUE BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAEUROPE - FIRE & RESCUE BADGES & PATCHESEUROPE - FIRE & RESCUE MEDALS & DECORATIONSEUROPE - BORDER & CUSTOMS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAEUROPE - BORDER & CUSTOMS BADGES & PATCHESEUROPE - BORDER & CUSTOMS MEDALS & DECORATIONSEUROPE - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAEUROPE - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BADGES & PATCHESEUROPE - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS MEDALS & DECORATIONSEUROPE - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAEUROPE - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BADGES & PATCHESEUROPE - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION MEDALS & DECORATIONS AMERICAN CONTINENT----------------AMERICA - MILITARY BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAMERICA - MILITARY BADGES & PATCHESAMERICA - MILITARY MEDALS & DECORATIONSAMERICA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAMERICA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BADGES & PATCHESAMERICA - LAW ENFORCEMENT MEDALS & DECORATIONSAMERICA - FIRE & RESCUE BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAMERICA - FIRE & RESCUE BADGES & PATCHESAMERICA - FIRE & RESCUE MEDALS & DECORATIONSAMERICA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAMERICA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BADGES & PATCHESAMERICA - BORDER & CUSTOMS MEDALS & DECORATIONSAMERICA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAMERICA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BADGES & PATCHESAMERICA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS MEDALS & DECORATIONSAMERICA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAMERICA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BADGES & PATCHESAMERICA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION MEDALS & DECORATIONS ASIAN CONTINENT----------------ASIA - MILITARY BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAASIA - MILITARY BADGES & PATCHESASIA - MILITARY MEDALS & DECORATIONSASIA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAASIA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BADGES & PATCHESASIA - LAW ENFORCEMENT MEDALS & DECORATIONSASIA - FIRE & RESCUE BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAASIA - FIRE & RESCUE BADGES & PATCHESASIA - FIRE & RESCUE MEDALS & DECORATIONSASIA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAASIA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BADGES & PATCHESASIA - BORDER & CUSTOMS MEDALS & DECORATIONSASIA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAASIA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAASIA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BADGES & PATCHESASIA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BADGES & PATCHESASIA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION MEDALS & DECORATIONS AFRICAN CONTINENT----------------AFRICA - MILITARY BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAFRICA - MILITARY BADGES & PATCHESAFRICA - MILITARY MEDALS & DECORATIONSAFRICA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAFRICA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BADGES & PATCHESAFRICA - LAW ENFORCEMENT MEDALS & DECORATIONSAFRICA - FIRE & RESCUE BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAFRICA - FIRE & RESCUE BADGES & PATCHESAFRICA - FIRE & RESCUE MEDALS & DECORATIONSAFRICA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAFRICA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BADGES & PATCHESAFRICA - BORDER & CUSTOMS MEDALS & DECORATIONSAFRICA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAFRICA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BADGES & PATCHESAFRICA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS MEDALS & DECORATIONSAFRICA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAAFRICA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BADGES & PATCHESAFRICA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION MEDALS & DECORATIONS OCEANIAN CONTINENT----------------OCEANIA - MILITARY BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAOCEANIA - MILITARY BADGES & PATCHESOCEANIA - MILITARY MEDALS & DECORATIONSOCEANIA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAOCEANIA - LAW ENFORCEMENT BADGES & PATCHESOCEANIA - LAW ENFORCEMENT MEDALS & DECORATIONSOCEANIA - FIRE & RESCUE BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAOCEANIA - FIRE & RESCUE BADGES & PATCHESOCEANIA - FIRE & RESCUE MEDALS & DECORATIONSOCEANIA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAOCEANIA - BORDER & CUSTOMS BADGES & PATCHESOCEANIA - BORDER & CUSTOMS MEDALS & DECORATIONSOCEANIA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAOCEANIA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS BADGES & PATCHESOCEANIA - CORRECTIONS & PRISONS MEDALS & DECORATIONSOCEANIA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIAOCEANIA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION BADGES & PATCHESOCEANIA - OTHER & CIVIL ORGANIZATION MEDALS & DECORATIONS OTHER INSIGNIA----------------INTERNATIONAL RANK INSIGNIAFICTIVE RANK INSIGNIABADGES, PATCHES and other INSIGNIAHYPOTHETICAL RANKS OTHER LANGUAGE DISCUSSION----------------Czech - Pro česky hovořící návštěvníkyRussian - Для русскоязычных MARKETPLACE----------------Looking to buy ...Looking to sell ...Exchange

UNIFORM INSIGNIA FORUM START PAGE    .    EUROPE - MILITARY BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIA